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House budget-appropriations hearing 2024
Hearings for Pennsylvania’s State System of Higher Education were held Feb. 21. Here are APSCUF’s collated posts from the House hearing:
.@statesystem‘s House appropriations hearing has begun after @RepHarris calls it to order. Watch the livestream here: https://t.co/YF0o5asVxA
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
In chancellor’s opening statement, he talks about investing in higher education. We’re part of an experiment, he says, mentioning consecutive years of frozen tuition.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Here’s the @statesystem‘s appropriations request: https://t.co/xXohlGgfon
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepJFleming asks about PennWest enrollment, asks for thoughts about the difference between Commonwealth and PennWest.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor clarifies categories of enrollment. “Trends are positive,” he says. PennWest schools were in more challenging place, he says. Different approaches to consolidation, he also says. Did a fundamental reset, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
“I think the whole thing was hasty,” Fleming says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Fleming asks about using contractors versus faculty expertise. University presidents are CEOs of their universities, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. James B. Struzzi II talks about blueprint as rug pulled out from under feet. He asks which budget request chancellor supports.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
“Anybody else want to take this chair?” chancellor says. Chancellor talks about need to help students. State System proposal allows for tuition freeze, he says: https://t.co/xXohlGgfon
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Struzzi asks about chancellor’s involvement. Chancellor talks about discussions on affordability, workforce alignment, funding.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Struzzi asks about what benefit chancellor sees in combining community colleges with universities. “Systems can have any number of benefits,” chancellor says. Mentions efficiency gains. He notes program and course-sharing. Accelerating pace of innovation, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepReginaYoung asks about value of promoting diversity, equity and inclusion on campus, what PASSHE is doing to improve educational experience, and how PASSHE preparing for future students to attend.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor: “It’s the right thing to do.” It’s a workforce-development thing, he adds. He talks about persistence rates, student support. A lot going on and a lot more to do, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepReginaYoung points out that not all students of color are low-income. Chancellor talks about inclusion as wholistic thing. He discusses multicultural centers, reiterates revamping of codes of conduct.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Marci Mustello asks how faculty compensation package ranks. Chancellor says about 106/110%, depending on category, regional variations.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Mustello asks how much of request going toward students, how to address costs. “What does it mean to be fair,” chancellor poses … “what can we actually afford.” Idea was to get to numbers fair and affordable.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Almost impossible to answer, he says, as faculty are the direct avenue into our students. Investment in faculty is investment in students, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
In response to @RepJoeWebster, chancellor talks about how universities are “open for business.” Webster asks about workforce shortages. Chancellor talks about pathways into in-demand fields, ways to partner.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Eric R. Nelson asks whether governor’s $1,000 plan goes all four years. Plan lacking details, Nelson says. He asks about policy/program to help all students.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about clarity of goals. Key thing is to clarify objectives.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepKinkead talks about community colleges, difficulty with transferring, that she is excited about blueprint. She holds up the printed plan chancellor provided for consolidation, calls it “lacking substance.”
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Kinkead asks what lessons learned from consolidation, what will be done better — better for students, unions, faculty. Chancellor talks about need to communicate, be clear about goals. Important to evaluate risks, he says. Kinkead interrupts to ask again what will be done better.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Would you spend more time talking to stakeholders, Kinkead asks. She encourages legislature being more involved.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Thomas H. Kutz asks why investing in @statesystem a good investment in Commonwealth. Good ROI ($8 on every dollar invested) for state and for students. Students tend to stay and contribute to communities, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Kutz asks about changing needs and technology. Programs constantly evolving, chancellor says. He asks about blueprint pricing, incentives for staying in PA. Chancellor redirects to administration.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepKyleMullins talks about @WCUofPA education. We should pause and note that there’s no bill number, draft, co-sponsor memo on blueprint, he says. Should be deliberate process of stakeholder input, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepKyleMullins asks about APSCUF coaches’ five-year probationary period, evaluations. Chancellor declines to speak about ongoing negotiations.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@EckerRep asks about challenges with @FAFSA delays. Chancellor voices concerns, references universities’ rolling admissions and pushing deadline. Coverage by @Bschackner of @TribLIVE: https://t.co/S4CXSPMorQ
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Ecker talks about blueprint “not ready for prime time.”
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepMannyGuzman mentions about how blueprint would affect Latino community. He asks about performance-based funding.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about how State System does performance-based funding. First incarnation had too many measures. Second was more targeted, focused on enrollment, especially of low-income, underrepresented minorities + retention. It’s a factor in enrollment growth, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepMannyGuzman asks about enrollment drops for lower-income students. How to reverse trend, he asks. What investments needed, he asks. Affordability, chancellor responds. People can’t go to college if they can’t afford it.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Guzman presses for solution specifics. “All of the above,” chancellor says. Get money in hands of students, invest in institutions, he says. He mentions tuition freezes.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Kristin Marcell asks about pandemic-related learning loss. “It continues,” chancellor says. Need to continue to invest, upskill, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Marcell asks for specifics about helping students make up ground. Varies by university, chancellor says. Mentions bridge programs, redesigning first-year experience.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepJoshSiegel refers to blueprint as “nebulous concept.” (He mentions @PApromiseHE.) He talks about lowering tuition, asks if chancellor will be vociferous advocate. Affordability super important, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Should we get out-of-pocket costs to students as close to zero as possible, Siegel says. He pushes honoring CBAs in new system. How could we not honor contracts, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Clint Owlett asks about working with community colleges. Chancellor talks about progress so far.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepMalagari asks how much more in allocation it would take for System to be more affordable for students. “Not an exact science,” chancellor says. Ways to evaluate, he says. Pilots important, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepMalagari asks if System still exploring 90-credit bachelor’s degrees. Chancellor says no.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Back to @RepJFleming, the representative asks why consolidated universities were allowed to flail and stumble. They were not, chancellor says, intervened immediately. Supports still being provided, chancellor confirms.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Fleming asks about new PennWest president. Search taking place, chancellor says. More about search: https://t.co/SsLaRAzoPJ
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Rep. Jesse Topper, Republican chair of education committee, says consolidation “was not rushed.” It was meant to save something in crisis, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Topper talks about specializing within System. Chancellor talks about autonomy of universities, working together, program sharing. That’s driving diversification, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Topper asks about opportunities at Commonwealth. Chancellor talks about job fairs, research, borrowing from one another. He mentions PennWest internships, housing reciprocity.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Education Chair @RepSchweyer asks, “How’s Cheyney doing?” Chancellor talks about “gut punch” of Middle States decision. (Article: https://t.co/mPxgQEWIqY)
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about challenges of claiming student financial aid. Improvement in enrollments, outcomes, he says. He notes effect of football loss.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
How is PASSHE helping, @RepSchweyer asks. “We’re all in,” chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepSchweyer asks about overall debt. $1.8billionish, chancellor says. Chancellor notes pension-related proportion, will get more numbers to representative.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Republican appropriations Chair @RepGrove talks about blueprint details. He mentions chancellor being in press release, doing video and public relations.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
“I’m pretty zen about this stuff,” he says. He talks about ongoing conversations about affordability, making progress, opportunities. Grove asks about task forces. Chancellor talks about presidents of universities and community colleges, representation on task forces.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Grove asks about consolidation timeline. Chancellor talks about years between legislation, board approval, then enrollments in new institutions.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Appropriations Chair @RepHarris asks for thoughts on performance-based funding. Goes back to what’s the goal, chancellors says. Confident that research will be utilized, chancellor says. “It can work,” he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Harris asks again, “What’s your opinion?” Chancellor says it can work, mission also critical. Harris asks about negative outcomes of performance-based funding on HBCUs. Chancellor says he is aware. Chancellor references research, conversations about mission.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Harris asks about chancellor’s involvement in blueprint task forces. Chancellor talks about availability for consultation; not on task forces. He is chancellor of State System (versus blueprint system), he clarifies.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@RepHarris begins to conclude hearing. Chancellor asks to make one last comment. He thanks for partnership. Assembly is informed on issues; conversation is a rich one, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Harris concludes the hearing. Missed it or want to rewatch? The footage is here: https://t.co/YF0o5asVxA Collated posts will be on the APSCUF blog soon.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Senate budget-appropriations hearing 2024
Hearings for Pennsylvania’s State System of Higher Education were held Feb. 21. Click here for the archived video. Here are our collated posts from the Senate hearing:
Today’s @statesystem appropriations hearing has begun in person, but the livestream has not started. https://t.co/DmE6MdMZiM
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Livestream is up, a few minutes into hearing. Watch here or here:https://t.co/DvNVEPt8bKhttps://t.co/DmE6MdMZiM
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorArgall is asking about buildings on State System campuses. Chancellor talking about buildings with debt, buildings stated for demolition, sales, repurposing.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenWilliamsPA asks if a 15% increase would allow State System to offer $1,000 tuition. Chancellor says he’s waiting for details about governor’s higher ed blueprint. Is a 15% increase going to be enough, Williams asks. Chancellor says he does not yet know.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Williams asks for lessons learned from consolidation. “Is the juice worth the squeeze?” chancellor says of evaluating reasons why to consolidate.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
How do we change affordability, Williams asks. Consolidation wasn’t designed to lower tuition, says says. She mentions tuitions freeze. Still needs to be a real conversation about investment, putting money into students, she says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Williams asks about consulting with employees, students on blueprint. You cannot consult enough, chancellor says. “We consulted with everybody a lot,” he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorKristin asks how much consolidation has saved. Chancellor says they’re tracking, “significant savings,” but can’t give number now. Chancellor refers to personnel expenditure, contracting costs, etc.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
She asks about staff and faculty cost savings. Chancellor talks about headcount reductions. She pushes for numbers since consolidation. Rationale for consolidation was to ensure students had access, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorKristin asks about enrollment declines, asks what is being done to mitigate. Chancellor talks about increases, retention improvement. “All the numbers are moving in the right direction” at Commonwealth, he says. PennWest is “turning around aggressively,” he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@sennickmiller asks about cost savings of remote learning. Research doesn’t suggest there is, chancellor says. Rationale is access, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Miller asks for advice on retaining students in Pennsylvania. “We cost too much,” chancellor says. “I’m not sure where we get our workforce from.”
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Can’t solve it by not educating people, and you can’t educate people if they can’t afford to go to college, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@rothman_greg asks about governor’s blueprint and what $1,000 includes. Not enough detail in proposal to do math, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
“Affordability is a big deal,” chancellor says. A problem that will only get solved with consensus, he says. Rothman pushes about who will pay for plan. Chancellor says details needed.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenJudySchwank points out that governor’s plan is a proposal, many questions have been ones chancellor can’t yet answer. She asks about connections with community colleges and benefits for students.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Systems have tremendous advantages, chancellor says. He talks about innovation. Important to specify goals, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Schwank asks opportunities at consolidated universities. He talks about faculty members who are doing great work and are exhausted.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@Sen_Pennycuick asks about what new governance model would look like under new blueprint. New system would be created of co-equal members, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Pennycuick asks what would happen with local support for community colleges, endowments. Chancellor can only speak for PASSHE, he says. Pennycuick asks about working groups. University presidents involved, chancellor answers.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Pennycuick asks about shifting focuses of schools. Universities constantly evolving, chancellor says, playing to strengths as four-year universities. Need to think about affordability, workforce alignment, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorRBrown talks about blueprint being a big deal, questions involvement. Chancellor clarifies has been involved in conversations, is a thought partner.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Brown asks why chancellor not kicking and screaming to have answers about blueprint. “This is a process, and it’s a long process,” chancellor says. He looks forward to conversations, he says. Affordability and workforce a big deal, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@senatorsaval asks opportunities with community colleges. Chancellor talks about improving transfer rates, articulation agreements. Work would need to be done.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about transfer numbers stabilizing after long period of decline.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Saval asks about performance-based funding and benefits. Chancellor talks about challenges, encouraging behaviors that drive student success, mission. Make sure formula recognizes basic costs, he says. Performance-based funding can work, but it can also not work, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Sen. Cris Dush asks about Cheyney scholarships, graduation rate, accreditation. Chancellor says he can’t speculate about Middle States decision.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorHaywood asks about codes of conduct. Strong codes of conduct provide tools to deal with harassment, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Haywood talks about investing in students versus dollars in interest-bearing account. Chancellor talks about return on investment for PASSHE students. He talks about workforce needs and recruiting.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Haywood asks about dual enrollments. Good for students, chancellor says. Must be careful of economics, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenElderVogelJr asks about use of capital funding. Chancellor talks about deferred maintenance.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Vogel asks about building demolition. Many are former instructional, office buildings, chancellor says. Vogel talks about enticing juniors and seniors to live in dorms on campus.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenRobinsonPA asks whether costs of new collective bargaining agreements factored into new system. He asks about CBAs in new system. Chancellor does not have definitive answer.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenSantarsiero talks about aging demographics. Investment in higher ed would be a good thing, he says, asks for agreement. “I think affordability is a good thing,” chancellor says. Santarsiero talks about history of underfunding; investment required.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenSantarsiero asks for opinion about management of community colleges moving forward. Back to question of system’s design, chancellor says. He mentions objectives, references State System’s redesign.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenSharifStreet asks about how System is targeting CTE programs, microcredentials, workforce demands. Chancellor talks about what is happening on System campuses. Credentials valuable for students who may stop out, chancellor says. Chancellor talks about national recognition.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about jewels in Pennsylvania (community colleges and universities) and people who are there because they care.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
As second round begins, @SenatorArgall starts with thank you to chancellor. He asks if “I don’t knows” about blueprint are because of secretiveness or stage of planning. “It feels to me like it’s an early stage,” chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Have any nonconsolidated universities asked to “jump into that process,” Argall asks. Will there be more, he asks. Board no longer has authority to integrate, chancellor says. Chancellor talks about program sharing.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Argall asks about fundraising from alumni. Public higher education generally got slower start, but “we’re catching up,” chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenWilliamsPA asks about 90-credit bachelor degrees, whether PASSHE still exploring. We are not actively exploring but great idea, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
If we don’t invest in students, not just systems, and don’t include workers, we won’t address workforce needs, Williams says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor calls himself an unrepentant optimist. “We’re running out of time,” he says. Worried about state of Pennsylvania, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorKristin, looking over System enrollment data, highlights PennWest and Commonwealth declines. What are you doing to mitigate, she asks. “We did a fundamental reset” at PennWest, chancellor says. Things are beginning to stabilize, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Phillips-Hill “really really concerned” about lack of answers about blueprint, she says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenatorSaval talks about approach to managing collective bargaining agreements. Chancellor says “I’m not driving this bus” about governor’s proposal. His understanding is system will be new system with new structure.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
About CBAs, “this is a people business,” chancellor says. Talks about low morale and exhaustion. Invest in upskilling and reskilling, he says. Goes well beyond contract, jobs are changing, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor asked: If he did not have to deal with checks and balances, what would chancellor do to make Pennsylvania higher ed superior. Invest in students and people, chancellor says. Have to earn trust of legislators and Pennsylvanians, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor mentions that Texas is “killing it,” aligning workforce planning and investment. Louisiana killing it in interesting ways as well, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor asked about savings of consolidations. Will see more savings over time. Asked if professors are no longer teaching full time but still receiving full-time pay. Chancellor talks about how much more professors are taking on.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenSantarsiero and chancellor discuss workforce, credentials. “We have tremendous people who have transformed pretty much everything we do. We’re reinventing higher education,” chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Sen. Cris Dush asks about increase in APSCUF salaries. Chancellor says faculty agreement in principle, not yet ratified. (Coaches still in negotiations.)
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Dush asks about faculty veto of program changes; chancellor mentions shared governance. “Policy-makers need to be the policy-makers,” Dush says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Dush asks about diversity, equity and inclusion. Chancellor talks about employers wanting employees who are comfortable in diverse environments. “We need to stretch people” but make sure people feel welcome, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@SenSharifStreet talks about importance of diversity, equity and inclusion. He asks about nontraditional students and building trades. Chancellor talks about opportunities.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
“We want to get to the answers as well” about blueprint, @SenatorHughes says. Enticing but cannot be achieved without a lot of deliberation, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
We put the money in, we get it out with positive outcomes, Hughes says. All related to thoughtful decisions, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chair @ScottFMartin talks about investment. Biggest threat to PA is demographic decline, he says, references aging population. Must focus on how we grow PA, he says. Have to get higher ed right, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Martin asks for chancellor’s viewpoint of about need for teachers, nurses, trades, criminal-justice careers. What if PA offered “big time assistance” for certain fields but must stay in PA for five years, he asks.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor mentions last year’s budget request for funding for degree fields.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Improving career-aligned pathways creates advantages for PA, chancellor says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@ScottFMartin points out PASSHE’s existing relationships with community colleges.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Martin asks about students who don’t feel they need degrees. How to adjust and accelerate, he says. He lauds Florida higher ed. He talks about students going out of state. He talks about seeing West Chester advertising in other states. What is overall plan, he asks.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about push in enrollment management, building playbooks. It’s about upskilling our own people, he says. Our price is just high, chancellor says. Will require continued transformation, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@ScottFMartin mentions the whys of costing more. Politics continues to put hurdles of doing what you need to do to right-size, he says. He mentions IUP doing “what is necessary” to be viable.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
We can never create scenario where something pulls other institutions to edge of financial brink, Martin says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
Chancellor talks about phases of redesign — financial stabilization and credentialing productivity (different kind of redesign). You have partnered with us in journey, chancellor says. Keep head down and stay focused on work, he says.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
.@ScottFMartin asks if PASSHE’s budget request would enable tuition freeze. Chancellor says yes.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
That wraps this hearing: https://t.co/w19j6JjK9B
House hearing begins 1 p.m. today.
— APSCUF (@APSCUF) February 21, 2024
See Dr. Kenneth M. Mash’s remarks to the Board of Governors – Feb. 8, 2024
The Feb. 8 Board of Governors meeting was streamed via YouTube. Below are APSCUF President Dr. Kenneth M. Mash’s comments as prepared. The embedded video is set to start with Mash’s remarks.
Chairwoman Shapira, Chancellor Greenstein, governors, university presidents, and guests. My name is Ken Mash, and I am the president of APSCUF, the association that represents the faculty and coaches at our State System universities.
I would like to begin today by thanking the chancellor, Assistant Vice Chancellor Mbuu, Presidents Fiorentino and Patterson, and all of the administrators who worked with my colleagues to reach an agreement in principle for the faculty.
And while we disagreed considerably (and still do in part), I think that there are some important things in this agreement that will reflect well on all of us.
It was a product of months and months of hard work by a lot of people, and I know that my faculty colleagues appreciate the commitment of those at the table to do what is in the best interest of all — especially our students.
I can say similar things about the negotiation of the contract for the coaches. There has been a lot of progress made on some very important issues. There are only a few issues remaining, but one of those — job security — remains a serious problem.
Chairwoman, chancellor, and governors, your negotiators have made it clear they will not budge on an issue of fundamental fairness.
I have not made a habit of speaking about specific contract issues at board meetings. But this issue is one that seems to defy all logic, runs counter to basic issues of public employment, and is truly NOT about money.
We are told that our coaches are protected better than any unionized or nonunionized coaches in the country. That isn’t true. At least one faculty contract in the country still covers coaches. But even so, bear in mind that the bar is pretty low. And it is not a righteous position to compare yourself to the bottom.
Our coaches are not looking for tenure. And right now — in our current CBA — they can be eligible for a two- or three-year rollover contract. But to get these contracts (and let’s remember that no System coach is going to be paid out millions of dollars for the last year of their contract), coaches have to be on probation for FIVE years.
Other than faculty, what other unionized worker has to wait five years? But coaches are not faculty, and the commitment made to them does not come close to the commitment made to faculty. And the coaches are not asking for what the faculty have.
What do they want? They want the five years to be a more reasonable three years.
What do they want? They want their renewal decisions to be based on the evaluations they must complete every year. Right now, they can be nonrenewed for such “reasons” as “we want to go in another direction” — even if they have had positive recommendations for the year.
What do they want? They want the ability to grieve nonrenewal decisions should they be problematic.
What do they want? They want contract language that says that a nonrenewal decision cannot be arbitrary or capricious. They want language that says — for goodness’ sake — that the decision cannot be discriminatory. That is right: The System wants to maintain its right to be discriminatory in nonrenewal decisions. How is that defensible?
But I apologize. The coaches are not seeking all of that. They are only seeking some progress on job security.
It should not be OK to have your representatives bang on the table and announce that this will not change. It just is not right. It is not a good way to treat people.
I sincerely hope there is some reconsideration of the position. Who knows? Maybe the coaches will settle without this. After all, when the minimum salary is below the poverty line for a household of two, people can be forgiven for wanting a bit more to put food on the table. But that will never make it right.
And it certainly leaves a bad taste in the mouths of both my faculty and coach colleagues. Governors, I certainly hope you can put the word in for how you believe that those who are primarily responsible for the well-being of our wonderful student-athletes be treated with just a little more respect. After all, the System’s negotiations team represents you.
Thank you for your time.
Coach negotiations update – Feb. 1, 2024
The Association of Pennsylvania State College and University Faculties has released an update about negotiations. Click here to read the release.
Students: APSCUF’s internship, scholarship applications open

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Applications are open for APSCUF’s 2024 scholarship and summer internship.
Feb. 12 is the deadline to apply to our government/public-relations internship. Interested State System students can click here for the application packet and to read testimonials from past interns.
June 3 is the deadline to apply for our $3,000 state scholarship, open to relatives of APSCUF or APSCURF members in good standing. Click here for the application and to learn more about past recipients.